Politically speaking what's it called when I hate the current political system, want to see the end of capitalism and really would like us to stop making our natural habitable uninhabitable but am very aware I don't practically know how to achieve that, or indeed what the real physical outcome will be?

Is there a name for that?

@gsugambit so, I'm not sure what the tenets are (is there a list somewhere?!), but I dislike it because I think it encourages greed, is a system of minority privelege, it leads people to strive to gain at the expense of others.

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@iamalsoandy when you say it encourages greed of gains at expense of others I'm not sure how you tie this to culture over "the human condition". I think it's pretty complicated and I wouldn't be sure our political system is what is enabling this

@iamalsoandy in nation free of capitalism we still see the pareto principal play out

@gsugambit so we've reached the point I run out of knowledge (it happens increasingly quickly these days, ironic with the amount of information available that I no longer know much)

However, it's pretty clear that our current capitalist structures are not encouraging, enabling, making the changes needed to prevent climate breakdown. Our way of life (maybe the human condition) of consumerism and, I think, capitalism slows down our desire to change. I don't think...

@iamalsoandy I agree that all initiatives will not thrive but that doesn't have to do with the socio-poli structure. There are non capitalist nations not addressing the problem as well. It takes human desire and forethought for the future

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